This information is to be used as a guide for dating whistles. The site is a work in progress and is constantly updating when new info comes to light.
Even though these are the dates that J.Hudson&Co were at these addresses,
the dates that were actually stamped on the whistles show a slightly different story. To get a more accurate date the charts are primarily based on dates and addresses stamped on the whistles. Mainly 1896 onwards.
BEFORE USING THE CHARTS FIRST DETERMINE WHETHER YOU HAVE A VICTORIAN OR POST VICTORIAN WHISTLE.
First thing you ask yourself is what sort of top do you have. Is it a single or two part construction and what sort of edges does the loop have.
Determine what Mouthpiece you have.
Curved or Straight 'J.Hudson&Co' line.
In 1902 the 'J.Hudson&Co' line becomes straight with all the letters being the same size in a block standard font. The 1901 loop becomes thicker.
The little differences in each address can give you a more accurate date for your whistle.
1908 - 1922
Date whistles with their Cap stamps & Address combinations.
In late 1908 the whistle is seen with the 1907 address stamp.
Combination of stamps in the 244 BARR STREET address.
The first whistle with 244 BARR ST had 1914 on it, no dot after the 244 and street was still abbreviated. In the same year it was changed to have a dot after 244 and street was shown in full from then on. The following combinations of stamps are found in the corresponding dates.
Extra characteristics to look out for In some whistles.
From 1909 to late 1910s the loop had the following look.
A serif on the '1' between 1908 - 1913.
The 1908 has NO dot after the 13 and the 1909 - 1913 does with a '3' having a longer neck. This is another easy way to determine the date of your whistle. A serif and no dot after the 13 tells you its an 1908 just as having a serif and a dot after the 13 tells you its a 1909 - 1913.
The 'M' changes font and the 'N' is fixed sometime in 1907.
Extra flaws or Deterioration in Address stamps can help you to date Whistles at a glance.
In the 1901 whistle the 'B' may have a bit missing.
This is helpful for the 1898 - 1901 whistles if you cant tell
if you have a thicker 1901 loop or an earlier thinner loop.
This flaw can be seen in the 1905/1906.
Later in 1908.
The 1907 address stamp in combination with a two part top and a cap marked PAT.APP.FOR.MAR.08 is a late 1908 whistle.
Refurbished whistles can be stamped either side.
IF THERE IS NO ADDRESS
We can still use the charts to try and date the
whistle with these secondary stamps within a range.
The Metropolitan stamp changes font.
1907 - 1908
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